Fish Psychology

Musician John Roderick talks with his friend Dan Benjamin about spending the day in your sleeping uniform, predator eyes, owls, television station sign-offs, "Alaska Is", the Catholic Debate Squad, the time his dog ran away, the challenge of being a human being, a humanist, the benefit of religion and political ideology, and fish psychology.

Links for this episode:

• Great-tailed grackle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
• Red-tailed Hawks ATX - Album on Imgur
  
• Red-tailed Hawk at MoPac and Far West : Austin
  
• Socratic method - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
• TV sign off - YouTube
  

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