Let's Make Mistakes

Let's Make Mistakes

Mike Monteiro and Katie Gillum of Mule Design talk mostly about design and how to do it, with a few tangents along the way.

#12: Barely Legal

July 1, 2011 at 5:00pm • 46 minutes

Mike Monteiro and Katie Gillum welcome Gabe Levine to discuss the legalish parts of client services. They talk about how to plan for when people become their worst selves in design, contracts as diapers, the Golden Rule. Katie is taken off guard when Gabe calls her a business woman, and the three of them pitch a new mistresses and 2nd family box at baseball games.


#11: Emotions, Privacy, and Men

June 24, 2011 at 6:00pm • 39 minutes

Mike and Katie admit some mistakes. The also have a Diversity Check-in about boys' clubs in all industries, fathers' day, and private and public areas. Finally, they shake up the rhythm of the show with a special dietary and musical guest, the Paleo Hobo.


#10: Working for the Empire

June 17, 2011 at 6:00pm • 51 minutes

Mike and Katie talk a bit more about flipping the Flip and flipping companies. They chat about the differences between being a designer at a start up and at a design agency, the Rock's Family Tree, and Jordan's muscle deposition. Mike makes strong statements about some sports and LeBron. Katie has a movie suggestion.


#9: Portuguese Inquisition

June 10, 2011 at 3:00pm • 47 minutes

Mike takes his first steps as an interviewer while Katie sits in the hot seat about research methodology in design. The discussion veers into manipulation vs. getting the best out of people, how research helps talk clients out of bad ideas, and a lot about chocolate brown pants suits.


#8: Employed and Employing

June 3, 2011 at 1:00pm • 40 minutes

Mike and Katie talk about the stupidity of killing the Flip, why a pat on a bottom isn't good feedback from a boss, going from employee to employer; plus Mike teach us all how to be a horrible employee and apologizes to all his old bosses.


#7: Defining Design

May 27, 2011 at 2:45pm • 49 minutes

Mike Monteiro and Katie Gillum grapple with how to determine where design starts and where it stops, how to steal and borrow ideas, and the mistakes they've made in past shows. They do not talk about female athlete post-pregnancy body image; that part got cut.


#6: Designer Mail

May 20, 2011 at 5:00pm • 49 minutes

After some important discussion about great American pastimes (malls, baseball, and sarcastic bone breaking) Mike Monteiro and Katie Gillum field questions sent by listeners to the show. The resulting Q&A touches on how research impacts project scope, language to use when talking about design, and selling yourself and your work.


#5: Designing For Everyone

May 13, 2011 at 1:00pm • 55 minutes

While Mike Monteiro and Katie Gillum talk destruction of apple products, feats of athleticism, and dead baby jokes, they also manage to wax diverse and emphatically discuss how people can be better designers, organizers, and people by thinking about diversity in their work.


#4: The Designer's Mother

May 6, 2011 at 3:30pm • 42 minutes

In this special mothers' day episode, Mike and Katie talk about where designers come from, how to explain to your parents what you do, and profane pottery.


#3: Making Things for People

April 28, 2011 at 4:00pm • 36 minutes

In this episode we're talkin' bout research. Research? We're talking about research. We discuss how research is really just figuring out why people take bagels out of the garbage, "user testing," How podcasts/shows get their names, and finally we actually talk about making mistakes in design.